Kathleen, On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:40 AM, Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Paul Wouters <paul@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> I concur with most of Stephane’s comments. And I find the use of the term “pervasive encryption” very problematic. Pervasive means: >> >> “(especially of an unwelcome influence or physical effect) spreading widely throughout an area or a group of people.” >> >> More encryption is never unwelcome to the enduser. > > Could you propose an alternate title? We used the term ubiquitous > previously, and it was changed in a prior IETF list discussion to the > current title. > The general definition when comparing various dictionaries seems to associate the word "pervasive" with the common meaning of "spread throughout". Based on that, the title seems appropriate. regards, Victor K > > Best regards, > Kathleen >