Re: letting IETF build on top of Open Source technology

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On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Can you explain your different interpretation?

I see "Standards Track", which clearly means RFC, and "not Standards
Track".  Assuming that to also mean RFC would be a logical error.  If
the entire premise of 3967 is to describe how RFCs refer to other RFCs
of a lower maturity levels, it never outright says it.  I agree that
this would appear to be the intent and interpretation, but it seems
like 3967-bis might be a neater way to address your central concern
(that we also refer to things other than RFCs, OMG, NIH!)  FWIW, the
narrow scope here (and in 3967) does us all a disservice when a
slightly larger mallet would do the job more definitively.

It has frequently been the case that getting large policy changes through the IETF
is challenging and causes the non-controversial first steps to never happen. There
was a lot of work in NEWTRK that had such issues.

The issues around IPR considerations are different for a generic reference from
referencing another RFC or external standards body document, where the IPR policies
are clear and well-known.  

While I would be happy (of course) to discuss what broader scope you think would be
preferable, the first question is whether there is community support for this narrow scope.

Regards,
Alia

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