Re: Revamp of the www.ietf.org website

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I disagree on this.

Having our announcements for last calls, RFC, STDs, major events, etc., in social media, helps to disseminate IETF activities, and we like or not social networks (I’m personally not a fan of them), is an obligation today. Many folks will not use a mailing list to know about “new” IETF work, but they will happily subscribe to a facebook or tweeter account.

Regards,
Jordi
 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> en nombre de Martin Rex <mrex@xxxxxxx>
Responder a: <mrex@xxxxxxx>
Fecha: lunes, 17 de julio de 2017, 17:32
Para: <jordi.palet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
CC: IETF <ietf@xxxxxxxx>
Asunto: Re: Revamp of the www.ietf.org website

    JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
    >
    > I think a missing aspect of the web site, which should be prominent in
    > both the home page and also the ?contact? page, is all the social media.
    > 
    > I see there is a ?share this page? at the right of the main picture,
    > but in my opinion, is not clearly visible and is not enough
    > (the logos of the social networks should be recognized without...
    
    Cough, cough, WHAT???
    
    Please get rid of the "social media" crap entirely.  I thought that
    there was an IETF consensus that privcay is sensible and useful, and
    strong privacy protections should be the default.
    
    
    Facebook, Twitter and other "social media" crap is the far opposite of
    strongy privacy, so none of this should be encouraged or promoted by
    the IETF.
    
    
    
    Comparing the bandwidth necessary to load the entire homepage,
    I notice the following issues:
    
      https://www.ietf.org/    Total 188176 bytes (mainly by accident, it seems)
                               The visible page _contents_ are just fine,
    
        but the page designer goofed the photo in the meeting information,
        because the picture is transferred at size 640x427 taking up 150270 bytes,
        although it is actually being displayed at just 200x133, where a
        pre-scaled image would need just 17 KBytes.
    
        Even on my 5" Smartphone, the https://www.ietf.org/ loads just fine,
        I get the whole picture immediately, and can zoon into my area of interest.
    
    
      http://www.ietf.org/     Total 1195800 bytes (ouch ouch ouch ouch).
    
        is a completely botched page design. it needs multi-page scrolldown
        even on a big desktop screen, and finding stuff has become extremely
        difficult.
    
        This page even manages to provide *ZERO* intelligible information
        when loaded on my SmartPhone
    
        only shows the Welcome / Revamp <Learn More>  + Social Media Crap Buttons
    
        and when scrolling down the multiple pages of crap on my SmartPhone,
        very close to zero of the links _that_used_to_be_ on https://www.ietf.org
        pass by.
    
    
        Normally I close such bloated ad & nag screens immediately, though
        nowadays uBlock saves my health by ensuring that most of such crap
        does not even get displayed on any of my screens (desktop & mobile)
        in the first place.
    
        The huge background picture (IETF-Past-Meetings.max-4000x4000.jpg)
        with 763216 Bytes is just crazy.  Is this about a party/festival?
        A *HUGE* waste of network bandwidth and memory (RAM and on-disk cache)
        and writing text over photos also make reading difficult (poor contrast).
    
    
    
    All in all, my personal summary for https://beta.ietf.org/
    
    disgusting and extremly bloated, usless and highly confusing.
    
    
    -Martin
    
    
    



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