> I'd agree with the position that we ought not risk meeting in the US > for a few years, incl. that we ought, if possible, move ietf-102 on > the basis that the we don't have a predictable situation with the US > at the moment and that we ought not plan to meet in any place that's > currently that unpredictable.) to me, the lack of predictibility on the draconian index is the main issue. and for the uk as well as the states, both seem to have a well developed and practiced ability to do very damaging things on very, or no, notice. randy