Hi, Michael, On 3/1/2017 6:05 PM, Michael Richardson wrote: > Joe Touch <touch@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > FWIW, industry often doesn't let out ideas until filing preliminary > > patents, which has a similar effect. > > > AFAICT, the speed of an -00 is more tightly correlated to the > > motivation for the document. > > Good point, but tell me why -01 and -09 and -17 don't come out faster? > If it's because the authors are busy, and aren't working on that document, > that's fine. But I'm seeing some kind of shyness to putting new versions out. I'm not sure it's easy to determine except on a case-by-case basis. Other reasons: the community wasn't ready for the doc yet, other docs took priority (for the author or WG), there might be lots of email list activity to resolve an issue, etc. > Is there a distrust of documents which have "too many" revisions? I'm not sure I'd call it "distrust". But it is hard to keep up with a constant stream of revisions, esp. for very large docs. > Should the beautiful history bar in the datatracker, have some measure of > changes? Would graph of lines changed (in the XML!) per revision be > interesting? Would that help know how close a document is to being ready? Not necessarily. First, moving sections around can give a false sense of a major change. And a doc that is only wordsmithed could either be close to being ready or be an indication of apathy. There's no substitute for actually tracking what's going on with a document, and no replacement for a person investing time to figure that out. Joe