>>>> "Many network security devices block all ICMP messages for perceived >>>> security benefits, including the errors that are necessary for the proper >>>> operation of PMTUD. This can result in connections that complete the >>>> TCP three-way handshake correctly, but then hang when data is transferred. >>>> This state is referred to as a black hole connection." >>> >>> Yes. What we are asked to do for Internet Standard is show that a protocol >>> is widely deployed and is interoperable. That's undoubtedly true of RFC1981. >>> The fact that it also has an important failure mode should certainly be >>> documented, but I suspect that every Internet Standard has at least >>> one important failure mode. >> >> the problem is that this particular failure mode is essentially "does >> not work on the real internet." perhaps documenting that is useful. >> but i guess this is ipv6. > > I fully agree that it should be documented, but the details are already > documented elsewhere. In this document it can be quite short. i have no problem with terse :) "Unfortunately, this protocol does not actually work on the real internet, see \cite{elsewhere}," seems fine to me. randy