On 30 January 2017 at 10:50, Leif Johansson <leifj@xxxxxx> wrote: > >> See you all in beautiful Prague, >> > > I agree with RB - lets just stop meeting in the US. > > US companies who still want to play will figure it out and > will apply pressure accordingly. > > Feels like a no-brainer to me. > While I'm hugely sympathetic - my mother would probably be banned from the US if Trump thought her country of birth had ever existed - the logistics work both ways. Holding meetings exclusively outside the US means that anyone living in the US under a green card or similar may well not be able to return from such a meeting. I feel the appropriate response from the IETF is probably to consider advancing virtual meeting and remote participation. As for public statements, while I would not want the IETF to make any political statement, I think it's entirely reasonable to note that sudden impositions of travel bans for selected minorities do make organization of global technical meetings much harder. The IETF can, and should, make a statement specifically regarding Chicago, and noting that some participants who have already paid may need to change their plans. Such statements are not expressing any view on the legitimacy of the current US position, merely its effect on the IETF. Dave.