Re: Predictable Internet Time

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Joe Touch <touch@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Leap seconds are still seconds, which are counted in "seconds since
> epoch".

Can you you show me where in the POSIX spec linked below leap seconds are counted? I thought they were not.

> > http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/basedefs/V1_chap04.html#tag_04_16

> > $ perl -MPOSIX -e 'print strftime "%F %T\n", gmtime 1483228799'
> > 2016-12-31 23:59:59
> > $ perl -MPOSIX -e 'print strftime "%F %T\n", gmtime 1483228800'
> > 2017-01-01 00:00:00
>
> In would presume that the same code would generate a time that is one
> second behind UTC right now.

I'm not sure what you mean. If you add (24+24+23)*3600 seconds to 1483228800 you get 23:00:00 today, which is the same length of time after 2017-01-01 00:00:00. Nothing is one second behind now. Except it has taken me more than 600 seconds to write this message.

> I.e., the Posix code is incorrect in claiming it reports UTC.

Yes, I agree.

> NTP reports seconds since epoch; it is in the conversion of that value
> to display time that the issue of leap seconds comes into play. In that
> case, some systems report 59-59-00 and others 59-00-00, i.e, repeating a
> UTC value to account for the leap second in the human-readble output.
> Internally, the number of seconds which have passed is correct and
> include the leap second.

But if the count of seconds includes the leap second, surely the number representing the leap second could be printed properly as :60 ?

Tony.
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