Randy, Sorry, no that is not what he means. Malaysia has no diplomatic relations with Israel and it is thus not possible for him to apply for a visa through the normal process (embassy, consulate, fee, sticker in passport, etc). There *are* ways for a group to apply to for exceptions, but this cannot in any way be compared to visas from or to China. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher The Internet Protocol Journal Office: +1 415-550-9433 Cell: +1 415-370-4628 docomo: (090) 3337-9311 Web: protocoljournal.org E-mail: olejacobsen@xxxxxx On Sat, 9 Apr 2016, Randy Bush wrote: > > And I can’t enter Malaysia at all. > > what you mean is that the malaysians have you go through a visa process > as the emericans do to the chinese, ... > > randy > >