On 16 March 2016 at 08:27, Warren Kumari <warren@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
[ Intentional top post ]So, the original email (~65 messages ago!) raised the issue that ietf.org wasn't accessible over Tor because of the CAPTCHA.29 emails ago Alec Muffett posted: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/mzh5xox0WGE4_KDeyJC0RpxTceYThis said that CloudFlare treats Tor as a country, and you can twiddle the knob to whitelist / decrease the threat level assigned to the Tor "country".I haven't seen anything discussing this - while the current round of beard pulling provides me with much entertainment, perhaps we could *also* discuss twiddling the knob or, more productively, see if the folk responsible for keeping this running know about the knob? Presumably it could be twiddled until / unless the *IETF* actually sees pain from Tor?
That's a very sensible suggestion, and is therefore probably off topic for this thread.
WOn Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 3:39 PM <lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:The IETF is censoring gopher!
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From: Eliot Lear <lear@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Randy Bush <randy@xxxxxxx>
Cc: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; IETF Disgust List <ietf@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, 16 March 2016, 18:32
Subject: Re: ietf.org unaccessible for Tor users
On 3/16/16 8:06 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
> it is not ours to say what others should and should not read, or to
> which they should have easier access. to do so is called censorship.
Nobody's prohibiting access to any of our public documents. And as
someone pointed out elsewhere, if one wants to copy every last bit of
IETF documentation, they are able to do so and provide whatever access
they wish. To my knowledge nobody else has raised the concern that that
the Tor people are raising, and so we are being asked to specifically
support Tor. Fine. That means we then need to consider the
benefit/harm of our actions regarding who precisely we are helping. I
asked that question honestly without an answer, but with concerns.
Eliot