> On 15 Mar 2016, at 14:23, Randy Bush <randy@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > in these more privacy conscious days, we should be setting an example > of how our own technology (and those of our friends in other sdos) > can be used to maximize privacy and integrity. client blocking, > discrimination, and breaking e2e encryption are not what i consider > nice examples. This. > On 15 Mar 2016, at 14:25, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Speaking personally, I'd answer your question with a yes, but > not on moral grounds, rather because Tor is one of the most > widely used privacy enhancing technologies; the IETF should > encourage use of such so that we learn how to make privacy > better on the Internet, so therefore we should, I think, be > actively encouraging its use so we learn more about it. I > don't think the IETF has established that as a consensus > position, but nor should we have to. It's fairly obvious I > reckon. And this. Otherwise, it seems we have short memories. Tim