--On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 05:50 -0800 IETF Administrative Director <iad@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > As required by RFC 7691 the IAOC has developed a proposed > update to the IAOAC Administrative Procedures to define the > start and end of the terms of IAOC members > > Please see the proposed changes, Draft IAOC Administrative > Procedures dated 8 December 2015 here: > <https://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/IAOC-Administrative-Procedure > s-2015 -02.pdf>. > > Please send any comments before 4 February 2016 to > iaoc@xxxxxxxx. Ray, Other than some concerns about how long it took you and the IAOC to post this after 7691 was approved, one observation: With the first sentence in the first paragraph of Section 2.1(2) as an example, the document seems to be much more confusingly-written (and hence hard to read and understand) than it needs to be. I _think_ I know what that paragraph means, but cannot be sure without reading it several more times and then studying BCP 101 _and_ the "adopted IAOC policies". For the latter, there is no citation and it appears that the only way to find whatever is relevant is to read through some significant fraction of the documents linked to from http://iaoc.ietf.org/policy-procedures.html and perhaps some large percentage of the Minutes (at http://iaoc.ietf.org/minutes.html), including those that might document policy decisions that have been approved by not yet documented. As part of that confusion, if my vague and faulty memory is correct, part of the debate leading up to 7691 was about whether the IAOC could decide to have outgoing members participate in the selection meeting and, if so, whether one of them could chair it. I think the decision was to leave such details to the IAOC's discretion and good sense, but with the understanding that the details would be documented. This draft does not appear to satisfy that need -- the questions appear to still be open. I don't know if others have similar reactions, but I would have appreciated it if you had taken the small amount of time to edit the document presentation before posting to eliminate change indications, such as "deletions" for renumbered sections, that are basically spurious artifacts of adding an additional section. I think you and the IAOC can do a much better job of serving the community than this draft suggests. john