We're way off topic here (when does that ever happen??), but since Interop was mentioned: The hotel did not allow (a conference rate for) "early arrival," that is to say Saturday before an event that started Monday morning, mainly for the reasons (allegedly) that "geeks don't gamble," but I do agree with John: I very much doubt we would actually impact the cash flow of the casino, it's not like they would close it to outsiders ;-) Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher The Internet Protocol Journal Office: +1 415-550-9433 Cell: +1 415-370-4628 docomo: (090) 3337-9311 Web: protocoljournal.org E-mail: olejacobsen@xxxxxx