Toerless, > On Dec 16, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Toerless Eckert <eckert@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Yeah, i am not paying $270 for a hotel room even if it's just on my employer. > > I don't mind not getting a room in the Hilton. I experienced > the same rigged IETF room game in Yokohama and was very happy with my outside > room which was a lot cheaper and probaly a lot better than the IETF conference hotel. > > I just would for a change once like to see honest communications from IETF. > How many rooms for $209 where blocked, how many rooms for $270 where blocked, > and how many where actually available to book at the time the email was sent out. The block contracted was: 2,410 room nights were contracted at $209 (250 on peak). 450 room nights were contracted at $270 (50 on peak) all available for delegates when reservations opened. 95 rooms (840 total rooms - 28% of the total block) were held out for a sub-block at the $209 rate for NOC Vols, Verilan, AMS, IESG, IAB, IAOC 1,570 room nights with 155 on peak were available when reservations opened at the $209 rate. At https://www.ietf.org/meeting/95/hotel.html the $209 and $270 room rates were stated, however, the number of rooms associated with each was not stated. We will do so in the future. > > Don't think this is too much to ask for. Nor is it too much to ask that one avoid characterizing our communications or information as dishonest, perhaps incomplete or inaccurate, but never dishonest. Your apology is accepted. Ray > > Cheers > Toerless > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 05:26:14PM +0100, Martin Vigoureux wrote: >> the hotel currently indicates >> $209 30-Mar to 03-Apr >> $270 03-Apr to 04-Apr >> no room on 04-Apr >> $209 05-Apr to 10-Apr >> >> -m >> >> Le 16/12/2015 17:20, Toerless Eckert a écrit : >>> Nobody said 300 rooms at $209. Just "IETF rate", which on their >>> reservation page was $209 and $270 >>> >>> And i am sure iwas also not 300 bookable rooms by the time the mail was >>> sent. >>> >>> So, rigged game. IETF should do better. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:18:11AM -0500, Brian Rosen wrote: >>>> There are 300 rooms at the IETF rate. They told us that in Yokohama, and >>>> it says that on the website. >>>> >>>> They know it???s not enough, but it was all they could get. >>>> >>>> Brian >>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Toerless Eckert <eckert@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The $270 rooms also show up as IETF rate and its still available only >>>>> with IETF booking code. So my question staands. How many rooms at $209. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:09:12AM -0500, Brian Rosen wrote: >>>>>> We have been told, 300 rooms. We know it???s not enough, but it???s >>>>>> all they could get. >>>>>> >>>>>> Brian >>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Toerless Eckert <eckert@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How many rooms where blocked at the $209 rate ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think this is a rigged game. I bet a large percentage of rooms >>>>>>> will have been booked before the email by folks in the IETF that are >>>>>>> in the know. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Show us a log from the hotel when each of the booking was being made, >>>>>>> then we will know. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> Toerless >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 03:30:10PM +0000, Tim Chown wrote: >>>>>>>> I reserved a room fine, from the hotel info page on the ietf95 site >>>>>>>> not the link on the email (tho they may be the same) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 300 rooms will fly off the shelf??? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 16 Dec 2015, at 15:22, Carsten Bormann <cabo@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I just got a booking, but had to adjust the arrival/departure dates >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> get that booking. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> $ 250 per night (including taxes)... Duuh. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (At least I don't have to pay for a visa.) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Grüße, Carsten >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Eric Burger wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Really? Is that because there is an IETF block and we do not know >>>>>>>>>> the code, or are we SOL, nine minutes into registration? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For a paltry USD 450/night (including tax), we can get in on >>>>>>>>>> Tuesday April 5. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Really? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> Toerless Eckert, eckert@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> --- >>>>> Toerless Eckert, eckert@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>> >>> > > -- > --- > Toerless Eckert, eckert@xxxxxxxxx >