So, since you've been with the IETF you have a solution to this? That it happened a lot before my time doesn't make it any less of a pain in the rear. Regards, Sarah > On Dec 16, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Sarah Banks <sbanks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Since we're piling on, I'll +1 this. I don't recall getting a hotel room the day of registration opening ever being such a huge issue as it has been. As a female, I prefer to be in the venue; it allows to meet as early or late as I want to, without having to worry about the walk "home", and the logistics that come with that. > > You obviously have not been involved with the IETF very long. There > were many years when it was the normal case that the meeting hotel > sold out immediately. And that was before the IAOC even existed and > before the regrettable decision to plan a meeting location on > marketing even though this inconveniences most attendees. > > Thanks, > Donald > ============================= > Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) > 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA > d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx > >> /S >> >>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 8:59 AM, Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> On 12/16/15 7:52 AM, Ted Lemon wrote: >>>>> Why are we continuing to have hotel issues meeting after meeting >>>>> after meeting after meeting? >>>> >>>> Because we can't force hotels to give us large allocations. >>> >>> We already have a list of hotels which will. >>> >>> Either meetings are important or they're not. If we're >>> going to continue to treat meeting participation as necessary, >>> we need to make it easier logistically. Instead we keep throwing >>> up barriers to participation. The closest overflow hotel >>> is nearly a mile from the Hilton - how's that going to work >>> out for people with limited mobility? I'm very happy having a >>> walk each morning and evening but I'll tell you that it can be >>> a huge PITA for breakfast meetings for people not staying >>> at the headquarter hotel. Getting work done should be one >>> of the primary considerations, here. >>> >>> Melinda >>