Hi, On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 12:32:14PM -0500, Nadeau Thomas wrote: > At this point, its clear that having meetings somewhere as part of the outreach program is, but that > clearly is not optimizing for the existing attendees. I don't understand this claim. What is the history where we are having meetings as part of outreach, _except_ for the current example (which is admittedly outside our usual rotation). We have a 1/1/1 rotation because we decided to share the pain among regions where most of our participants come from, not from "outreach". It's not "outreach" to have a meeting in Japan, where a significant number of participants live. I certainly understand people's concern about availability at the hotel, and I'm sure the IAOC and the meetings committee will respond with the data people need. But we must not mischaracterise the reasons why we move around the world. Best regards, A (for myself and nobody else) -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx