On 14 December 2015 at 23:45, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > isn't the solution to all of this to just use TLS ? (or DTLS for udp) Sort of. Or proper L4 like QUIC, MinimaLT. You'll know packet got mangled, but troubleshooting which device it was is going to be hell. -- ++ytti