On 12/10/2015 5:00 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > I think this topic may be not appropriate for this list, unless it is submitted as an IETF ID. I'm always glad to see active seargant-at-arms efforts, attending to mailing list propriety. But I cannot guess at the basis for claiming Eromenko's posting was inappropriate. What policy or documented practice does it violate? I am not aware of any IETF or ietf mailing list requirement that a new topic first have an I-D before it is 'proper' to discuss it. There are considerable benefits in pressing a proponent to write up a specification, so that people can discuss concrete specifics, rather than vague ideas. So offering the guidance as a strong encouragement is reasonable, of course. But the efficacy of this is quite independent of formal institutional rules. (An in case this isn't clear, I'm not offering an opinion on the merits of Eromenko's proposal, merely about the propriety of the posting.) d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net