Thanks for your comment, Göran. I think we should let the IAB figure out what they want to do here. I just wanted to up-level the discussion a bit and make two observations. The first one is that some of the things we discuss at the IETF - including many IAB workshops - are generally interesting. Interesting not just for my colleague who cannot make it there, but interesting to many people, and discuss topics that may have impacts to lots of people. It is natural that there is interest, and that interest is a sign of success in picking up the right topics to discuss. The other observation is that event organisers often struggle with the practical tradeoffs, and it is fair to note that there are downsides (equipment, passing mics etc). Personally, I think the trouble is worth it almost always, unless it really is impossible to set it up, which can of course happen occasionally. I would also like to add that we have a lot of running code on opening up meetings that have some sensitive discussions. The IAB workshops sometimes do benefit from being able to discuss, e.g., ongoing security vulnerabilities in my network or something else that I wouldn’t necessarily want to tell everybody openly. But as an example, the IESG telechats are open for anybody to listen in, but in case we need to discuss, e.g., personnel issues we will have an executive session. Anyway, in short, a big +1 from me on making workshops as visible to the interested parties as possible. Jari
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