Robert, While I disagree with some of the details (and have written you separately about a few of them that I think have been adequately covered on-list), I think this is mostly a fair and balanced summary. I do question one pair of statements: --On Wednesday, September 02, 2015 09:20 -0500 Robert Sparks <rjsparks@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > It was suggested to explicitly note in the > status-change document that this is an exceptional action, > but that it falls within the processes laid out by RFC2026. [...] > * Concerns were raised about whether moving an > Informational document to a BCP was supported by the > existing processes, or if this was a process end-run. > Discussion pointed out how this is not a violation > of process. If the variance procedure is invoked, you can do almost anything, but it has not been invoked. Otherwise, an argument that this change is justified by RFC 2026 processes would appear to have to be justified either on the basis of our usual (but much more recent than 2026) convention of referring to BCPs as part of the standards track or by the invocation of Section 6.1 from Section 5.1 of 2026. "Discussions pointed out..." is not really a sufficient summary against that backdrop. In particular... Given that 2026 separates "BCP" (in Section 5) from "Standards Track" in Section 6 and elsewhere), making a "rules are the same and this is allowed" conclusion is a stretch. Inferring that the reference in the second paragraph of Section 5 to Section 6.1.1 or the one in the third paragraph to Section 6.1 allows the IESG to do anything to create a BCP that is allowed for putting something on the standards track or advancing it seems even more so. I also note that 2026 has something very specific to say about the relationship between Informational RFCs and BCPs, namely: "Specifically, BCPs should not be viewed simply as stronger Informational RFCs, but rather should be viewed as documents suitable for a content different from Informational RFCs." Getting from that to an assertion that it is ok under 2026 to take an Informational document with content suitable for that purpose and make it into a BCP by a status change with no change in content seems very much inconsistent with the clearly-stated intent of the above paragraph. Recommendation: If the IESG concludes that there is community consensus for doing this, either (i) Explicitly invoke the variance procedure of RFC 2026 Section 9, explicitly noting that the first part of Section 9 allows its applicability to any situation in which "...the procedures leads to a deadlock about a specific specification, or there may be situations where the procedures provide no guidance" even though Section 9.1 discusses only standards track document. Or (ii) Make sure the way in which you believe this is allowed by ("within the processes laid out by") RFC 2026 is very carefully spelled out in the tracker statement, not just stated as an assertion like those quoted above. Because the issue has been raised, approving this status change without at least some approximation to the above would make the decision appeal-bait. Should some sorehead initiate such an appeal, it would be entirely appropriate for an appellant to request that the entire IAB be blocked from considering such an appeal (because, as your summary indicates, they have already expressed support for this move as a status change) and that every IESG member who has taken a position on the appropriateness of the change, including by not objecting to the issuance of a Last Call that assumes the action is permitted, be excluded as well. Most of IESG might be able to avoid that claim on the basis that opinions might have been changed by the discussion but that would, itself, be a decision subject to appeal; the IAB cannot. Such a request in an appeal would, IMO, bring us close to a constitutional crisis. It would probably not be desirable to get ourselves into that state, especially over a document with the type of content and audience represented by RFC 1984. YMMD and probably does, but I thought it was important to get the above point of view stated clearly at the point. best, john