--On Friday, July 24, 2015 10:33 PM +1200 Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Also, we *really* need a repeater screen so that the person > speaking can see the slides without eyes in the back of > his/her head. Speaking coherently about a slide that I cannot > see is beyond my powers. Brian, I continue to believe that the Meetecho folks are doing a really excellent job with limited resources and that, if the IETF is serious about remote participation, we'd be talking at least as much about resources as about what we "need". Two examples: (1) I agree with you about the "repeater screen"/ monitor. But every argument for putting one in front of the speaker is an argument for also putting one in front of the table at which the chair(s) are typically sitting and several of them at "lots of people, really long table" events like the IAB and IESG plenaries. It would involve a bit of technology to set up, but it is basically just a money problem. (2) Zooming out, panning a camera, or shifting between speakers and chairs or out to the floor mic is easy if one has the right equipment and enough staff to stay on top of the cameras. However, that is a resource problem. During part of the Apps/ART meeting Monday morning, we had speakers dutifully standing in the pink square, but the square wasn't in the camera frame. It took a while to fix because Meetecho staff were, I understand, dealing with an emergency in another session. Keeping a camera pointed at the speaker and zoomed /framed appropriately isn't rocket science but, at least absent _really_ fancy equipment, requires live an attentive humans with monitors that show what the cameras are "seeing". Again, I think mostly a matter of resources, even if we had to work with local people to hire secondary school students who, if they listened as well as pointing cameras, might actually learn something. john