>>>>> "Ted" == Ted Lemon <ted.lemon@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Ted> On 07/14/2015 12:24 PM, David Farmer wrote: >> However, what if the only purpose of the portal is to display >> marketing and/or acceptance of Term & Conditions? Is DNSSEC and >> SSL still required in this case? I tend to think not, but I'm >> happy to hear why I'm wrong. >> >> Frequently that is all the captive portal is, a little marketing >> and maybe T's & C's to keep the lawyers happy. For most coffee >> shops or restaurants and a lot of other public places this all >> the portal does. Ted> The issue is that we want to avoid being infected by malware, Ted> and if the captive portal controls all of our access to the Ted> information we'd use to avoid connecting to an untrustworthy Ted> source, we are in trouble. Chances are that your marketing Ted> splash is some kind of flash or javascript thing, and we'd like Ted> to be able to know that we are really talking to you and that Ted> you aren't on a malware blacklist. DNSSEC and TLS (not SSL, Ted> all versions of SSL are known to be vulnerable to hacks of Ted> various kinds) are required to make this work. >>> My concern is that while this is really good advice, there's no Just to make sure we're evaluating the tradeoffs here. We're assuming that the attacker doesn't choose to pay for a plausible domain and a cert for that domain. I think cheap certs are in the $10 range unless they've gotten down to free, and domains are under $20. I'd been thinking TLS was valuable if you were exchanging sensitive information. Is the economic disadvantage to the mallware attacker greater than I'm implying above?