--On Thursday, July 02, 2015 06:18 +0000 "Eggert, Lars" <lars@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: On 2015-7-1, at 20:34, IAB Chair <iab-chair@xxxxxxx> wrote: > This is an announcement of an IETF-wide Call for Comment on > draft-iab-doi-04. I have sent comments separately to the IAB list, as requested, but, since the IETF list seems interested in discussing this, three high points (one of which was not in that earlier note): (1) The use of the format 10.17487/RFC1149 is ill-advised on internationalization and future-proofing grounds. It would have been far better to assign a code, say "1", to the RFC series, reserve all other codes for future use, and use something more like 10.17487/1.1149. (2) While the IAB (and RFC Editor) are not required to ask the community before making a change like this, making the change (effectively irreversibly) and then asking for comments seems to me to be in bad taste. The RFC Editor has already modified the index and published documents containing DOIs in this form (see the References section of RFC 7504 for examples of post-approval changes to that section). Identifier stability considerations suggest that their use, and that format, are now irreversible. The format issue mentioned in (1) was decided on without an opportunity for broad community input (it may have been raised in the RSOC, a closed group, or on the rfc-interest list, but neither constitutes the broad community). The IAB or RFC Editor, or the IAOC on their behalf, have presumably signed a contract with a DOI-issuing entity that contains provisions the community has not seen. And now the IAB is asking for comments? If the intent was to have the community look for editorial mistakes, the request should have said that. Probably, people who don't approve of this way of doing things should challenge the IAB on that subject and/or seek to identify the IAB members who pushed this through before irreversible or contractual actions are taken and discuss that behavior with the Nomcom. (3) I am now aware of three important efforts to establish a standard for persistent identifiers for documents and data that are available electronically or referenced electronically: the semantic web's "entity registration system" (ERS), DOIs, and the IETF's URNs. The three specs do not have the same scope, but their scope overlaps significantly. There may well be others. To the extent to which this document constitutes having the IAB pick a winner or deciding that the winner was picked elsewhere and recognizing that, it raises some important issues with the "eat your own dogfood" issue and the IAB's position on the active URNBIS WG. For those who have forgotten or aren't old enough to remember, it may also be worth noting that the so-called "Kobe incident" that set off the reorganizations that produced the Nomcom and the current decision-making structure of the IETF was essentially about the IAB making technology choices for the community that the community did not support. best, john