On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:03 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Well I think the original point here is 'eat the dog food' We fully disagree that that was the "original point". The original point was that encrypted email from the IETF is good. Joe specifically requested that we not get into a dogfood discussion so that he doesn't fall off his chair. --Paul Hoffman