On 23/03/2015 06:11, Ted Lemon wrote: > On Mar 22, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> If your concern is that you might obliviously misstep and be called >> out on it - then yes - you may - and you may actually need to think >> about it beforehand or learn from it afterwards. Welcome to life. > > Thanks for saying this, Alia. I've been feeling a bit frustrated by this conversation too, and not sure how to articulate that. I think you've hit the nail on the head. When I think about this topic, I definitely consider myself more likely to unwittingly (I hope!) engage in some kind of bad behavior that would result in censure than being the subject of such bad behavior. However, I would _much_ rather be taken aside and have that pointed out to me than continue it or "get away" with it. > > That is the point of this effort: not to make anybody miserable, but to notice when things are going off the rails and put a stop to it before it really gets bad. > We are quite capable of improving this through successive approximation, whereas I don't think we can get it perfect on the first try. We can't afford to just keep talking about it forever. Indeed not. A BCP is an RFC, which means we can comment on it and amend it if the running code has failure modes. I'd suggest one more spin following the recent comments, which will probably just tune up a few words, one quick check of those changes by counsel, and ship it. We do need this done. I was quite shocked to discover that, but there it is, so let's do it now. Brian