On Mar 22, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > If your concern is that you might obliviously misstep and be called > out on it - then yes - you may - and you may actually need to think > about it beforehand or learn from it afterwards. Welcome to life. Thanks for saying this, Alia. I've been feeling a bit frustrated by this conversation too, and not sure how to articulate that. I think you've hit the nail on the head. When I think about this topic, I definitely consider myself more likely to unwittingly (I hope!) engage in some kind of bad behavior that would result in censure than being the subject of such bad behavior. However, I would _much_ rather be taken aside and have that pointed out to me than continue it or "get away" with it. That is the point of this effort: not to make anybody miserable, but to notice when things are going off the rails and put a stop to it before it really gets bad. We are quite capable of improving this through successive approximation, whereas I don't think we can get it perfect on the first try. We can't afford to just keep talking about it forever.