>>>>> "John" == John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> writes: John> Sam, John> This may go back to our earlier (apparent) disagreement on the John> subject. IANAL or nearly a good enough approximation to one John> to be competent to assess the details, but my presumption John> continues to be that the basic rules about RFCs, plus this John> language, allows the type of application you are concerned John> about as long as the version of the template in the John> application is an exact copy. You're absolutely right. However, the requirement that the application be an exact copy is in and of itself enough to make such software fail to comply with the Open Source Definition, the Debian Free Software Guidelines, and the Free Software Foundation's definition of free software. So, on its face you cannot do that in a free software or open-source application. My strong belief is that in this instance the IETF's interests are better served by cooperating with the open-source/free-software community than by preventing modification of the templates. --Sam