--On Saturday, March 14, 2015 05:06 +0000 Michel Py <michel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >... > I have been wondering about that part. I lean towards thinking > that it would not have changed anything anyway, as the FCC > voted on party lines as expected. The prom queen is known > before the prom event. I'll be interesting to see if Brian and/or Richard agree but... Like any government or bureaucratic action involving a long and complex document, the "vote" is taken mostly on principles that are understood and assumptions about the details. It would be unreasonable to assume that everyone who voted either for or against this understood every provision and its implications in detail (or even superficially). You should also understand that the FTC tried very hard, through several administrations, to stay out of the Internet. Some rather strong positions to that effect in the mid and late 1990s led to the combination of NTIA and what become ICANN. Similarly, the FCC's initial position in the "neutrality" area was much narrower and, in many ways, more attractive. It would have been sufficient had it not been very aggressively challenged by a few companies, primarily ones that are telephone Carriers under the old model and that now become telephone and Internet Carriers. So, regardless of the details, there are almost certainly non-partisan elements of "fed up" and/or "driven to this" behind this decision. > I have learned much from you; is there anything we could have > done, besides James T. Kirk time machine ? Because of the above, what the staff who actually write these things need, and typically pay close attention to, is advice about how they can state things so that the outcomes they want and consider important are accomplished while unexpected or undesirable side-effects are minimized. That is less a matter of lobbying the US (or any other national) government and much more one of being educational at the right times and in the right ways. At the level of high-level principles, "we" asked for net neutrality and seem to be getting what we wished for. To the extent to which the regs are drafted in the wrong vocabulary and the vocabulary that is used may have nasty side effects, yes, that is partially "our" fault because it is almost certain that good and balanced education and advice would have been followed in at least some of the relevant areas. john