John, On 13/03/15 18:05, John C Klensin wrote: > However, the responses by a few IESG members to comments about > the IESG's exempting itself (and other parts of the leadership > [1]) from the provisions seems to call for additional comment > and probably a few more issues for the list of topics needing > addressing. I don't believe the above matches what the document says at all. The IESG didn't "exempt" itself from anything - the ombudsteam can very clearly exclude an AD from one or more meetings, just as with any IETF participant. (If that is not clear, it needs to be, but I think it is.) S.