On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 8:21 AM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I might be the only one (and this is more or less a call for
others concerned to speak up), but I do not consider deferring
the qualification issues until the "next time" acceptable,
especially given how infrequently we are willing to
significantly revisit BCP 10 and the supposed emphasis on
diversity, expanding IETF participation, and enabling remote
participation. I believe "qualification requirements" issue is
actually two topics with the second being more important than
the first:
(1) The actual qualifications for serving on the Nomcom (see
Sam's note and my follow-up).
(2) The linkages of various other procedural qualifications to
Nomcom eligibility.
At least the latter is, IMO, a fairness issue.
Hi John,
In case it wasn't clear from my comments, I agree that there's something to be resolved here. My added text here is only capturing the conversation so far, namely that we all seem to agree on that point but haven't managed yet to come up with something concrete to replace what's there now. When that changes, the text absolutely will change. If we give up and decide to ship this revision as-is, we're set; but there's no deadline here, so we can take as long as we want to come up with something.
Maybe we'll have some success flipping this around. Perhaps we select the NomCom volunteer pool by having the ISE, ADs, and WG chairs at least (and anyone else that wants to) toss out a stack of names each (maybe minimum 10 each), at every meeting, of people they have observed as contributing either in person or remotely. Self-nomination is allowed. That compilation then becomes the pool of volunteers from which random selection is done for the next NomCom. This filters out people that qualify under whatever criteria we might create but might otherwise be seen to be gaming those rules, but there are enough people tossing names into the proverbial hat then that any bias is presumably diluted.
Comments?
-MSK