On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 02:49:41PM -0500, John C Klensin wrote: > As a member of or sympathizer with various societies for bear > encouragement and preservation (black, brown, polar, Cub Scouts, > Teddy, Pooh, ... in no particular order), I find this name > really objectionable. From the description, "unbearerable" > might have been better, "betterbearer" certainly would have been. If the outcome is intended to be proof-of-possession extensions that render bearer token schemes no-longer-bearer... then "unbearable" seems better than "betterbearer", though I agree with you that "unbearable" comes across as potentially insulting. Maybe we should all be thick- skinned[*] enough to get the joke and move on, but: > I wonder if anyone has ever appealed a mailing list name. The risk here is that key participants might simply... ignore it until it's too late. I think the AD can probably do some promotion to try to avoid such an outcome. Nico [*] If there is such a medical problem as having thin skin, note that this is just a manner of speaking; no offense meant.