On Dec 3, 2014, at 11:00 PM, <l.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxx> <l.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > That's an ad-hominem argument that has no bearing on the current proposal. It's not "ad hominem" to ask someone why they think one thing is different from another. I actually agree with Bob that the abstract to 6346 says something that's not true, and it needs to be changed (I hadn't thought about it before he pointed out the problem). I asked Bob why he didn't object to the other proposals because I wanted to know. I doubt he was unaware of them.