Tim I realise that the Applications Area is redundant and will soon be exterminated, but, perhaps, it just might linger on long enough to provide a home for a discussion of a new media type:-); the apps-discuss list could just do. Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Bray" <tbray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "John Levine" <johnl@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: "scott" <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "IETF-Discussion Discussion" <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:51 PM Subject: Re: Media type for PGP message? A new version of I-D, draft-bray-pgp-message-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Tim Bray and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-bray-pgp-message Revision: 00 Title: The OpenPGP Message Format Document date: 2014-10-16 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 6 URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bray-pgp-message-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bray-pgp-message/ Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bray-pgp-message-00 “Real” HTML: https://www.tbray.org/tmp/draft-bray-pgp-message-00.html Abstract: RFC 4880 specifies the encoding for encrypted OpenPGP messages. This document registers an Internet Media Type for these messages. On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Tim Bray <tbray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > As I noted, there are many text-centric messaging channels that are in > wide use but are not in any sense email. > > Um, I’m suggesting registering a media type for a message format that is: > > - specified in a standards-track RFC (See RFC4880, sections 2.4 and 6) > - widely supported in software in a variety of programming languages > (references on request) > - currently being used in deployed apps (once again, see > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZYI0JHoJCILEegRJsWufXQ) > > Media types are supposed to be useful for dispatching payloads in > well-known formats to the appropriate software modules. Why is this > controversial? > > Anyhow, this discussion has revealed that there apparently isn’t a > registered media-type for this purpose, so I’ll write a draft and > we’ll have something concrete to argue about. > > > > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 5:58 PM, John Levine <johnl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> In article <2684567.G0MAaMzsuj@kitterman-optiplex-9020m> you write: >>>I went back and looked at a random sampling of the PGP encrypted mails I've >>>received over the last couple of years. 100% of them were multipart: >> >> You might want to check stuff that's PGP signed. In my experience, the >> majority is still ASCII armored, not MIME. >> >> R's, >> John