We are an international organisation. And that is why the time is listed in UTC. The message does list another time as well, in fact does so first. It also lists a local phone number. Another IETF meeting (IAB) uses a template that I have found very useful: > IAB Business Meeting > Wed 2014-09-10 > > 0700-0830 PDT > 1000-1130 EDT > 1400-1530 UTC > 1600-1730 Germany, Switzerland > 1700-1830 Finland > 2200-2330 China That is, it lists a few likely time zones for people for convenience. In this case the known timezones of people who are at least going to be on the call. I’m going to ask the secretariat to do something similar for the IESG calls, because it helps me and other participants to do their TZ math. I know I can always click on a link to find out, do the math, or use the Internet to find out local phone numbers. But sadly there are a few situations where I might be on a call without Internet connectivity. By the way, notice when I said *for convenience*. We are an international organisation but please do not ask us to remove information that is convenient for many participants just out of principle. And I think we have bigger problems in the Internet to solve than the announcement format for IESG calls :-) Unless, of course, we made all items local to Finland, which I think would be a significant Internet improvement :-) And now, I am going to attempt move the discussion to a direction that I think would be better use of our time. I saw a few participants on the previous call. Anyone on this list who joined? Did you find it useful? Or if you did not join, do you find it useful that you can, if you want to follow a particular topic? This time we had a record quick call, by the way, so there wasn’t that much actual discussion. But the different calls can be different in this respect. Jari
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