Re: Consolidating BCP 10 (Operation of the NomCom)

[Spencer Dawkins <spencerdawkins.ietf@xxxxxxxxx>]

On 09/12/2014 06:51 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:

Jari.

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Section 5.12 seems to have text that relates to pre-RFC5680 situation:

   The consultations are permitted to include names of nominees, if all
   parties to the consultation agree to observe the same confidentiality
   rules as the nominating committee itself.

Shouldn’t this be changed? Or am I missing something?

As I read this, "consultations" refers to meetings between a NomCom member and a community member that might have comments about specific candidates, not a list or short list of eligible candidates.  Unless I've misunderstood RFC5680, there's been no change to the confidentiality of those conversations, so that paragraph stands correct as-is.

I'm not Jari, of course, but I think Jari's point is that of course the consultations can include the names if they've already been disclosed as part of a call for feedback. So I agree that it's weird.

I usually forget that sending a list of nominees for feedback is a may, not a must:

   The nominating committee may disclose a list of names of nominees who
   are willing to be considered for positions under review to the
   community, in order to obtain feedback from the community on these
   nominees.

So any particular Nomcom may not have disclosed its list.

Perhaps it would be useful for this text to say "Even if the nominating committee has not previously disclosed a list of nominees, the consultations can include these names".

Does that help?

Spencer

What did you have in mind here?

-MSK