On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 3:20 PM, John Levine <johnl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > http://wiki.asrg.sp.am/wiki/Mitigating_DMARC_damage_to_third_party_mail Perhaps mailman should offer subscribers some of these (and other?) options. Let the subscriber pick their poison. I realize it's more work for the list manager, but not that much more work, and easily automated work anyways. With my MUAs the lack of WG name in the subject is not fatal. Though nonetheless I appreciate that being there. The footer should just not be added. It doesn't help anyone, full stop. Instead the list should make a simple attempt to detect "unsubscribe me" messages (and spank the user). Finally, a subscriber with no delivery option (using the archives and/or the hopefully-soon-to-arrive IETF IMAP service) would be nice. Nico --