Re: Interesting problems with using IPv6

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Ted Lemon wrote:

Apparently the issue is that although they have isolated various L3
networks with quite reasonable client loads, they are using a hybrid
L2/L3 virtualized switch environment that winds up not properly
containing the MLD multicasts.

Seemingly, the problem becomes apparent because MLD snooping is
now being deployed.

But, even without MLD snooping, a lot of multicast traffic
should have been and will continue to be annoying.

> And they have a lot of buggy
machines that keep temporary addresses around longer than they
should.

According to:

	http://inconcepts.biz/~jsw/ipv6_nd_problems_with_l2_mcast.pdf

in page 15:

	How will I run out of 1000 groups?

	If your layer-2 domain contains 1000 VMs (one rack of modern
	servers)

	Then just link-local IPv6 addresses will produce 1000 groups

the problem is more fundamental.

Then, though the slide says:

	FIX: Eliminate Solicited-Nodes How could we transition to
	this?

	Add a bit or Option to ND Router Advertisement so all hosts
	on the subnet will know about it
	–In about 10 years everyone will be updated… :-/

it is more straight forward to totally abandon ND and just
use ARP even for IPv6, especially because no protocol work
is necessary (RFC826, as is, is applicable to IPv6 and ND
is not mandated for IPv6).

Useful features of ND not supported by ARP can be offered
by DHCP.

						Masataka Ohta





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