On Fri 01/Aug/2014 06:02:08 +0200 Brian E Carpenter wrote: > On 01/08/2014 08:50, manning bill wrote: > >> As you properly have tabled, some of these IETF standards are >> subject to IPR claims, which the IETF mgmt and its sponsoring >> organization have prudently recognized. Publication of such >> material, encumbered by Intellectual Property Rights, clearly >> suggests that the IETF standard in question can not, in fact, be >> represented in open source without violation of IP laws. >> >> Codec and Crypto specs tend to be owned. > > If they are published as RFCs the boilerplate will indicate > rights; but watch out for the change of rules introduced by RFC5378. Some organizations, e.g. FSF, actively campaign against patents. OTOH, most SDOs seem to act as mediators between patent owners and their clients. I wonder whether it is at all possible to stand somewhere in between liberty and industrial support, rather than taking a firm stand on either side. Of course, it would be impressive if the IETF proclaimed its stand in that respect. RFC 5378 doesn't seem to promise such kind of statement, and I'm unable to even imagine how on earth consensus could be achieved on such topic... Ale