On 07/03/2014 10:35 AM, Michael Richardson wrote: > > In the home, firewalls were never planned, and are the unintended > result of ISPs pushing NAT on end users. (Either directly by > giving them the box, or indirectly by making multiple IP addresses > unaffordable/unobtainable) I could agree with this view. > As for the "IoT with default password", that's exactly the security > problem that firewalls have *CAUSED*; and it's this part that I > really regret. I'd argue that this has been caused by vendors being lazy/sloppy than by firewalls. Poor practices/choices are just that: "poor practices/choices". -- when you start making bad decisions on the assumption that there's "something there" that prevents your poor choices from being exploited, eventually you realize that "assumptions are the mother of.. many of the problems" :-) Cheers, -- Fernando Gont e-mail: fernando@xxxxxxxxxxx || fgont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1