> The fact that most users are not providing services on the net is not > true at all. making it difficult for the end user to provide services is a dangerous disfunction, the consumer-only couch potato intertnet. we should strive for a world where the user can control and publish their own data, not be forced by isp edge policies and technologues into being owned by the googles. [ my edge router in hawi is an openwrt, and time warner will not even let me https or ssh to maintain it from the outside, e.g. to install security updates. this is badly broken. ] in the IoT, this will force the home user to be owned by the IoT device providers with schemes where the devices have to 'call' their original manufacturers to rendezvous. randy