Dear Mr Moonesamy, Dear Mr Wallström, Thank you for placing my call in the right context. I hope this list <ietf@xxxxxxxx> allows me to reply without subscribing first. If not, please advice on how to subscribe. Assuming I was already subscribed, the problem is the following: If anyone else working in the EP is subscribed to this list with his @europarl mail address, he will never receive this email. That's it. The request asks for the documentation of the reasons for this fact, or more precisely, access to all documents relating to the EP's policies and server settings for interacting with RFC 5321 compliant mailing lists. No such documentation has been provided by the EP. We are preparing a follow-up request here: http://pad.epfsug.eu/p/epfsug-eod-emailrfccompliance Grateful for any help and comments on the pad. Best regards. //Erik ________________________________________ From: S Moonesamy [sm+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday 9 June 2014 17:55 To: JOSEFSSON Erik; ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: RFC compliance and the European Parliament Hi Erik, I am copying this message to ietf@xxxxxxxx instead of the perpass mailing list as the question is not related to surveillance. At 04:00 09-06-2014, JOSEFSSON Erik wrote: >I need help from the standards community with regards to >RFC-compliance in the European Parliament. > >I reach out here because I believe you expect your work on improving >the internet will be implemented, maybe in particular by public >bodies we hold to a higher standard wrt transparency than others[0]. > >In an Access to Documents request the EP just stated that >"conformity with RFC-5321 section 3.9 is by nature outside EP's >responsibilities" [1]. > >Do you agree? Are there RFCs which correct implementation would, by >nature, fall within the responsibilities of the EP? I read the reply. In my opinion the text quoted (above) from the reply conveys a different meaning. My understanding of that part of the reply is that mailing lists managed outside that email system is outside EP's responsibility. The question you asked could be stated as follows: Is it the responsibility of the EP to set the standards for email systems to adhere to? >Please find a link to our documentation of the particular issue with >RFC-5321 section 3.9 below[2] The issue in that document is about whether the mail relays for europarl.europa.eu can reject a message from a (external) mailing list if the "From:" header contains "europarl.europa.eu" as the domain part. There is be a mail delivery problem if the external email system implements and follows what is written in RFC 5321. Regards, S. Moonesamy