On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Dave Cridland <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The DMARC folk came to the IETF to have a rubber stamp put on their work, and pretty explicitly stated that no substantive changes were acceptable, and that change control would de-facto remains with the DMARC consortium.
So nobody who wasn't already "in the club" was really invited.
I understand that's how the move was interpreted. We spent a lot of time arguing about how to word the charter so that changes were restricted only to what was necessary versus wholesale changes that caused serious and unjustified disruption to the installed base, etc. etc. A lot of work has been derailed by cracking base specs wide open in the past (think 2821 and 2822, for example). It was the same argument under which DKIM and XMPP were brought to the IETF, but in the case of DMARC case the two sides couldn't agree on exactly how to do it.
One of the very specific items that was on the proposed charter was dealing with the question of how to integrate DMARC with mailing lists. This was called out very early on as an open issue, as were some other important ones:
http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/wg/appsawg/trac/wiki/DMARC
http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/wg/appsawg/trac/wiki/DMARC
-MSK