http://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/boil-the-ocean.asp In my experience, side-effects of security are generally unintentional - to be intentional, they'd first have to be understood by the security people, and of any interest to them. Lloyd Wood http://about.me/lloydwood ________________________________________ From: Randall Gellens [randy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 10 April 2014 05:28 To: Wood L Dr (Electronic Eng); randy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; elwynd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; agmalis@xxxxxxxxx Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: RE: RFC 7168 on The Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol for Tea Efflux Appliances (HTCPCP-TEA) At 5:07 AM +0100 4/10/14, <l.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Crypto requires increased processing power, requiring more energy, > producing more waste heat. > > So, yes, it is a contributing factor to global warming. Crypto is > red or black. It isn't green. I think you misunderstood me. I didn't ask if global warming was a side-effect of security, I asked if global warming was an intentional security effort, as part of the plan to boil the ocean. > > Whatever the sun does in terms of output (e.g. Maunder minimum) > dwarfs this and many other man-made contributing factors, of course. > > Lloyd Wood > http://about.me/lloydwood > ________________________________________ > From: Randall Gellens [randy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: 10 April 2014 03:24 > To: Wood L Dr (Electronic Eng); randy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > elwynd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; agmalis@xxxxxxxxx > Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: RFC 7168 on The Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol > for Tea Efflux Appliances (HTCPCP-TEA) > > At 3:05 AM +0100 4/6/14, <l.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Always boil the water first. This is in line >> with best security practice, which attempts >> to boil the ocean. > > So global warming is a security effort? > > -- > Randall Gellens > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- > It was the first airplane . . . that could make money just by > hauling passengers. > --C. R. Smith, president of American Airlines, regarding the > DC-3. The DC-3 specifications were shaped by AA. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Few ideas are really bad. Most are either pre- or post-mature. --Jon Postel