On Mar 18, 2014, at 1:42 PM, t.p. <daedulus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > perhaps that website, which is what the innocent browser would most > likely stumble across in a search for the IETF, should be gee-whiz and > flashy to advertise better who we are and what we do, to give us more > street cred.. Street cred that can be purchased with "gee-whiz and flashy" is street cred I don't want. (My own reaction to such is generally to downgrade my opinion of the organization behind the site, though I'm sure you can find as many reactions as you can individuals.) I agree with Brian's long note of March 17, with the sole exception of not completely accepting that there's nothing to be improved in the site's navigability, as implied by On Mar 17, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> a. Improve ease of navigation, > > Why? What is hard to navigate at the moment? I am very suspicious of this; The landing page is pretty busy. However I do go back to agreeing with the very next line: > I've almost never experienced a website revamp that made navigation *easier*; i.e. just because I think it *could* be improved doesn't mean I have any confidence it *will* be :-( Also: hey! you kids! get off my lawn. --John