>I'm more concerned with reading and writing. I still don't understand what this is supposed to mean in practice. There have been I-D's that desperately needed the help of a competent English speaker to rewrite parts where the language was so fractured that I couldn't figure it out. In my experience, people with poor English skills who come to the IETF are doing the best they can, so this suggests that if you (the general you) see a draft of interest with language problems, it would be a good idea to offer to edit or coauthor it. I don't really any WG sessions being badly impaired by poor speakers although there have certainly been presentations I wouldn't have been able to follow if the speaker didn't have slides, and there are plenty of WGs whose meetings I've never attended. Is there a concrete suggestion here? R's, John