On Feb 19, 2014, at 4:10 PM 2/19/14, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> As a matter of process, I'm confused about the handling of this appeal. >> It sounds like Phil appealed the approval of RFC 7049. >> >> That, I hope, was a decision made by the IESG, not a decision made by >> one AD. >> So, I'm failing to understand how it makes sense for you to respond to >> this appeal as an AD. > > Phill took the first step of addressing his complaint to the > responsible AD (me). This is my response. So, to clarify the process, Phill did not submit an appeal to the IESG under section 6.5 of RFC 2026. Rather, he took his complaint directly to you. As an aside at this point - is there a formal description of this complaint to you as an "appeal"? If so, where is the process documented? Phill's complaint appears to be directed at the IESG process: "My issue here is [...] the manner in which CBOR was made a standard has negated the value of having it being proposed as a standard." You wrote: "his appeal did come in within the two-month appeal window after the approval announcement." Yet Phill's complaint/appeal appears to have been handled solely by you, rather than through the process described in section 6.5 of RFC 2026. I'm not arguing with what has been described as an expedient outcome. Barry has responded unilaterally to Phill's complaint and not as a part of a formal appeal by Phill; Phill is satisfied with that response and has not, to date, filed a formal appeal. If I have that right, then Barry should clarify that this complaint/response was not part of the formal appeals process. For example, here: > If he or someone else > should choose to pursue a further appeal, the next step would be to > take it to the IESG by way of the Chair Barry should make clear that Phill would be taking up a formal appeal under RFC 2026, after following an informal discussion of his complaint with the responsible AD. My concern is that we not establish some de facto extension to our processes by labeling this particular example of complaint resolution as a formal appeal. - Ralph > > Barry >