At Wed, 29 Jan 2014 18:26:03 +0700, Robert Elz wrote: > Much easier, for such nefarious company, is simply to hire (as employees, or > consultants, it makes no difference) people to "represent" the company's > interest at the IETF, and make sure that those people are unaware of any > and all IPR claims that the company may possess. And doing this could even be a violation of our rules (for the IPR holder at least), depending on the details. RFC 3668 says: l. "Reasonably and personally known": means something an individual knows personally or, because of the job the individual holds, would reasonably be expected to know. This wording is used to indicate that an organization cannot purposely keep an individual in the dark about patents or patent applications just to avoid the disclosure requirement. But this requirement should not be interpreted as requiring the IETF Contributor or participant (or his or her represented organization, if any) to perform a patent search to find applicable IPR. Thomas