On 13 December 2013 16:50, Alyssa Rowan <akr@xxxxxx> wrote: > It is, as you say, rushed. It looks > like railroading, and I'm sure all want to avoid that appearance. I don't agree with the characterization. This needs to be fast, but to say that is has been rushed would be a vast overstatement. This was first raised prior to the first individual submission of ALPN, which was over a year ago. We've talked about it a fair bit already and I don't believe that the substance of more recent revelations change anything. I believe that our esteemed chairs and area directors have allowed these concerns to be raised and debated sufficiently. I am grateful that, in this case, they have curtailed the right of infinite appeal by closing this issue. Me, I'd rather be spending my time dealing with TLS 1.3. These discussions aren't doing anyone a favour.