Re: I-D Action: draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis-04.txt

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Brian,

That simple text is perfect, however the text that follows is mainly
about being politely because we are from different backgrounds and
speak different languages. My personal opinion is that we need to have
more strong text about harassment.

"IETF participants come from diverse origins and backgrounds; there

      can be different expectations or assumptions.  Regardless of these
      individual differences, participants treat their colleagues with
      respect as persons especially when it is difficult to agree with
      them; treat other participants as you would like to be treated.

      English is the de facto language of the IETF.  However, it is not
      the native language of many IETF participants.  All participants,
      particularly those with English as a first language, attempt to
      accommodate the needs of other participants by communicating
      clearly.  When faced with English that is difficult to understand
      IETF participants make a sincere effort to understand each other
      and engage in conversation to clarify what was meant.
"
Regards,
as


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Brian E Carpenter
<brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Arturo,
>
> On 06/12/2013 04:04, Arturo Servin wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am not advocating (or was) to add the anti-harassment policy here
>> (in fact I agree that it should not be here). I was advocating to add
>> some text that says that sexual, racial or other types of harassment
>> are not welcome in the IETF. So far the code has 4 mayor bullet
>> points:
>>
>> 1. IETF participants extend respect and courtesy to their colleagues
>>       at all times.
>
> How could harassment (or discrimination) be allowed under this rule?
> They are extreme forms of disrespect and discourtesy, I think.
>
>   Brian




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