In message <20131119190303.18335.qmail@xxxxxxxxx>, "John Levine" writes: > >> There is a need to be able to publish a NO, I DONT WANT YOUR CRAP, DONT > >> EVEN SEND ME THE FIRST EMAIL, and based on a number of other refusals by > >> the IESG and IETF Management (based on demands from parties who's sales > >> of filters may be impacted) has refused to take a formal project to > >> 'provide additions to DNS to allow for the publication of IP Licensing > >> and US/Contact Information for those domains. > > > >RFC 3665. Nobody ever used it. > > I'm fairly sure you mean RFC 3865, "A No Soliciting Simple Mail > Transfer Protocol (SMTP) Service Extension" but you're right, nobody > ever used it. > > We never thought anyone would, but there was political pressure at the > time from people who didn't (and I see some still don't) understand > the "voluntary" part of the way standards work. > > R's, > John If you don't want spam the first thing you need to do is make it illegal to send unsolicted commercial email both from within a country to anywhere and to the country regardless of where it is sent from. This needs to be done by eventually by all countries possibly encouraged as part of trade negotiations. You then need to followup and prosecute offenders. You need to be able to fine and/or gaol offenders. You need to be able shutdown events that are advertised using spam tactics. You need to be able to seize products that are advertised using spam tactics. You need to be able to send a spam complaint to a single national body which will distribute it to revelent national authorities in other juristictions. This won't stop all spam, but will reduce the amount of spam from legitimate advertisers. Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@xxxxxxx